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Donald Trump and Kamala Harris meet tonight for the first — and perhaps only — debate of their closely fought presidential contest.
The stakes are exceedingly high.
The June face-off between Trump and President Biden resulted in the incumbent’s withdrawal from the race following his disastrous performance. Vice President Harris was nominated as his replacement.
Tuesday’s debate is the first time she and former President Trump have ever met face to face.
Los Angeles Times columnists Lorraine Ali, Mark Z. Barabak, Anita Chabria and Doyle McManus are chatting as the debate unfolds. Keep it here for live updates.
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Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump are neck and neck in the 2024 presidential contest.
6:46 p.m.: Trump denies any culpability whatsoever for Jan. 6. Suggests the only victim was a rioter who was shot trying to break into the House chamber. Not a word about the cops who were killed, or the scores of law enforcement officers who were injured. Shameful.
“I had nothing to do with that other than make a speech,” he said of the attempted insurrection. Re-ups lie about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C., refusing to allow the National Guard to move in ahead of time to prevent violence.
-Barabak
6:39 p.m.: “It’s up to the American people to stop him,” Harris says of her opponent. Let’s step back for a minute for the big-picture. Harris has hit her stride and sounds calm and in control. Trump just belted out a, “Russia, Russia, Russia.” The lady is not pulling a Biden. Trump is pulling a Trump.
-Chabria
6:37 p.m.: After being relatively sedate to start, Trump is getting wound up as we progress. The pet-eating immigrant thing. Millions of criminals overrunning our borders and cities. Crime rate through the roof. (Not true). Creates a new category: “migrant crime.”
Harris hits back, noting Trump’s criminal cases and civil liability for sexual assault. One of her strongest moments of the debate.
–Barabak
6:35 p.m.: Harris chuckled at Trump’s mention of migrants eating pets. He’s starting to bristle, grimace, raise his voice. She’s getting under his skin.
–Ali
6:33 p.m.: Harris asked that question about rally crowds to get under Trump’s skin — and it worked. After his rant about migrants eating dogs and cats, a spurious report that ABC’s Muir knocked down, she laughed (the first Kamala Harris laugh of the evening) and noted the prominent Republicans who have endorsed her, including former Vice President Dick Cheney.
“If you want the inside track on who Donald Trump is, just ask the people who worked with him,” she said.
—McManus
6:32 p.m.: Harris seems to get under Trump’s skin with a crack about his rallies and claims people are leaving out of boredom. He claims “no one” goes to her rallies and then asserts that folks are being bused in to build phony crowds.
Then he goes off on a crazy immigrants-are-eating pets rant.
—Barabak
6:32 p.m.: They’re (the immigrants!) are eating dogs, says Trump. Make America great again, save Spot. Seriously, I can’t believe this is a debate issue, but here we are.
—Ali
6:31 p.m.: Boom! She just called his rallies boring, noted the small crowd size! Ouch.
—Ali
6:30 p.m.: “No where in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for abortion. It’s insulting,” said Harris in response to Trump’s lies on the subject. But more than that, she’s appealing to the emotions of voters, talking about harrowing decisions women face when abortion is banned in their state.
—Ali
6:29 p.m.: Oh, Harris made Trump big mad by saying people leave his rallies early.
—Ali
“People don’t leave my rallies,” he claims. They’re the biggest in the history of politics, he wails.
—Chabria
6:27 p.m.: Mark, I love it! He didn’t even hesitate to push JD under the wheels!
—Chabria
6:25 p.m.: And there goes JD Vance under the bus! He says Trump would veto a national abortion ban. Trump says he hasn’t discussed the matter with his running mate and, trying to duck the issue, says the veto question is a nonstarter because it will never come to that.
—Barabak
6:21 p.m.: Trump trots out a familiar canard about abortions, saying Democrats support execution of newborns. Falsely claims that Harris’ running mate, Tim Walz, “is OK with that.” Pats himself on the back for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade.
Abortion is one of Harris’ strongest issues. Polls show a substantial majority of Americans agree with her pro-choice stance. She’s really leaning into it and speaking with great passion.
—Barabak
6:19 p.m.: Moderator Linsey Davis comes the closest to fact checking in this debate when she said, “There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born.” She was responding to Trump’s claims that Democratic VP candidate Tim Walz said abortion at the ninth month of pregnancy is fine, and execution of the baby after is fine.
—Ali
The seasoned ABC News anchors, who have moderated presidential primary debates, will be serving up questions to Harris and Trump in Philadelphia on Tuesday.
6:19 p.m.: Trump skedaddles away from Project 2025, the revanchist right-wing playbook for a second Trump administration. It’s not very credible, because he’s surrounded by Project 2025 authors and acolytes.
—Barabak
6:18 p.m.: And Harris throws her first hard punch in return: “You’re going to hear a bunch of lies, and that’s no surprise.”
—McManus
6:17 p.m.: Trump uses the example, “Run, Spot, Run” when trying to show how simplistic the Biden-Harris plan is around the economy. He’s clearly priming audiences for a follow up comment on Haitians eating people’s pets. Watch out, Spot.
—Ali
6:16 p.m.: Tariffs! Trump recycles one of his all-time favorite whoppers: He says Americans “are not going to have higher prices” under his plan to slap tariffs of 20% or more on goods from China. That’s not what happened in 2017, when he did it the first time. The prices of washing machines and dryers from China went up by almost $100 per machine — and American manufacturers quickly matched those price increases.
—McManus
6:16 p.m.: And abortion is up, with the question going to Trump. He goes with the dumb-as-crumbs lie that we can “execute” babies after birth. No, murdering babies is not on the ballot. Makes for good drama, but it is bizarrely false. Does anyone believe this?
“Through the genius and heart and strength” of conservative Supreme Court justices we were able to overthrow Roe vs. Wade, Trump says. I am not seeing that as a winner.
Harris’ comeback on abortion is vicious, righteous and strong. Seriously, she ate him up on this. Trump looks sad. Sad!
But, he says, “I have been a leader on fertilization.” Um, OK?
—Chabria
6:15 p.m.: Fact-checker heads must be exploding. Trump misrepresents the effect massive tariffs would have on American consumers (if you think inflation was bad before…) The rate of inflation under President Biden. The rate of undocumented immigration. His ties to Project 2025. His policies toward China.
—Barabak
6:15 p.m.: Fact-checker heads must be exploding. Trump misrepresents the effect massive tariffs would have on American consumers. (If you think inflation was bad before…) The rate of inflation under President Biden. The rate of undocumented immigration. His ties to Project 2025. His policies toward China.
—Barabak
6:13 p.m.: Y’all, I am no fashion expert, but that looks like a “pussy bow” she’s rocking. You may recall that fashion item has appeared before.
—Chabria
6:13 p.m.: She also did the pussy bow thing when she accepted the nomination at the Democratic convention, Anita.
That was a fashion favorite of the late California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a fellow San Franciscan who served alongside Harris.
—Barabak
6:11 p.m.: Harris’ off-camera reaction is interesting. Trump pretty much stares straight ahead as she’s speaking. Harris is shaking her head, smiling (or smirking, if you prefer) as Trump delivers his (characteristically hyperbolic) opening statement.
—Barabak
6:10 p.m.: I feel like Harris sounded a bit nervous at the start, but now has found her stride. “Donald Trump has no interest in you,” she said. She’s on message, and sounding more confident. And that prosecutor’s smile, like the cat that sees the corner she’s herding the mouse into.
—Chabria
6:08 p.m.: “Same old tired playbook!” We have our first bingo card winner, followed shortly by, “Marxist.” Waiting for lunatic. How did we not include Project 2025?
Trump is denying involvement now with that ultra-conservative policy platform, which may be his first hugely big lie. It’s quickly followed by his “greatest economy” line.
—Chabria
6:08 p.m.: Moderator David Muir makes the first mistake when throwing the opening economy question to Harris — he says she served with President Trump. Oh dear. Apparently no one is fact checking the moderators, either.
—Ali
6:07 p.m.: Harris starts off pretty strong by ducking the question of whether Americans are better off than they were four years ago — and pivoting immediately to say she is from a middle-class family and has a plan for the middle class to cut housing costs and help with the cost of raising children. And she attacks Trump for his tariff plan — “the Trump tax,” she calls it.
—McManus
6:04 p.m.: And we’re off! We open with the candidates walking out and taking their place behind their lecterns. A brief, perfunctory handshake. Trump and Harris really dislike each other. It’s visceral. At least they managed that cordiality.
—Barabak
5:59 p.m.: And we are almost ready to go. Mark, you are spot on that most of us are looking for the fireworks and flare-ups, not the hard facts (which may be really good for truth-challenged Trump).
Will they shake hands? Scowl or smile? What will the first questions be? The tension is building.
We are hearing that the onsite spinners (including RFK Jr.) are already hard at work trying to set the narrative. But the first few minutes are likely to do that for themselves.
—Chabria
5:50 p.m.: While I’m as interested as the next guy, and gal, in the candidates’ issue positions, I really do think what matters most is their performance onstage and how they personally interact.
Most viewers (and voters) reacted to Trump stalking Hillary Clinton and Al Gore’s sighing and eye rolling much more than any of their specific positions on policy matters.
That’s one reason debate coaches review these face-offs with the sound muted—because what is said is often less important than how a candidate behaves.
—Barabak
5:40 p.m.: I’m sure I’ll regret saying this by the end of the evening, but I’m looking forward to tonight’s debate. This is the first meeting between Harris and Trump, ever, and “the most consequential debate of our lifetime” — at least since the last do-or-die debate in 2020. Or was it 2016?
But Tuesday’s showdown is truly a first in an election season full of them, from President Biden stepping out of the race to Harris’ historic candidacy. The only same-old, same-old on stage in Philly will be the former president, and that’s a difficult position for a guy whose prowess has been shocking folks with his unprecedented behavior. Can Trump, at 78, still suck up all the energy in the room while controlling his bully impulses, and deliver semi-cogent responses that don’t involve Hannibal Lecter?
Trump’s debate technique involves burying opponents with so many falsehoods and outlandish statements that they don’t have time to respond.
Harris, 59, is a relatively fresh face to many Americans. How will her straightforward approach as a former prosecutor shape this debate? Will the vice president manage to get under her rival’s skin long enough to knock him off balance? Can she push her own messaging and policy ideas to the fore when her sparring partner is renowned for quashing substantive discourse in a barrage of insults, lies and red herrings? Unlike Biden in the last round, Harris may not prove so easily distracted.
It’d be great if the forum allowed for substantive answers on child care, reproductive rights, the economy and more, but I’m not betting on it. It’ll hinge on fireworks, zingers, knockdowns and callouts. Harris has everything to prove. Trump just has to maintain.
—Lorraine Ali
5:30 p.m.: Donald Trump has dominated American politics and our political discourse for the better part of a decade. There’s no reason why tonight should be any different.
The big question for me, to echo Doyle, is: Which Donald Trump shows up onstage in Philadelphia? Will it be the uninhibited, unleashed, unexpurgated Trump, leveling attacks and throwing out wild accusations faster than it’s possible for most people to process (or Harris can manage to fully rebut)?
Or will it be a tamer Trump — we’re grading on a curve here — who may not be a model of sober statesmanship, but isn’t totally unhinged?
Harris must be ready for either one, and the way the vice president responds could go a long way toward determining her chances of winning the White House.
—Mark Z. Barabak
5:20 p.m.: Both candidates spent much of Monday setting up talking points for the debate. Harris took a more standard route, announcing policy positions on issues including Social Security, housing and child care. I’ll be watching for her to lay out those plans for a broad audience — and introduce her idea about ending sub-minimum wages for service workers, which steals thunder from Trump’s no-tax-on-tips proposal. Although the sub-minimum wage is banned in California, it’s prevalent in the South and other states, where some workers can earn as little as $2.13 an hour, with the rest supposedly made up by tips.
Tuesday night’s debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is sure to be billed as the prosecutor vs. the felon — and the beginning of the end for one of them.
But the real crazy I’ll be watching for comes courtesy of the Trump team. Right-wing media was ablaze Monday with accusations that undocumented Haitian immigrants have taken over Springfield, Ohio, and, wait for it, are stealing and eating people’s pets. Though this has been debunked, I guarantee Trump will bring it up as a terror-inducing example of the decline of America due to immigration. Watch out, Fluffy!
I will also be watching for Trump to continue to lay the groundwork to challenge election results. In recent days, he has frequently been posting on social media about unfounded claims that undocumented people are voting. This performance should alarm us all — that he is already working to undermine a free and fair election just in case he loses.
—Anita Chabria
5:10 p.m.: Tuesday’s 90-minute debate will be the most important job interview of Kamala Harris’ life.
Polls show a close race, but many voters say they have not chosen whom to vote for (or whether to vote at all) because they don’t know enough about the vice president.
So Harris’ most important mission is to define herself in the eyes of those voters: Is she commanding enough to look presidential? Does she have credible answers to voters’ top concerns, including high prices and border security? And can she parry Trump’s relentless charges that she is a radical leftist?
Donald Trump and Kamala Harris are skilled at avoiding questions they don’t want to answer. Here are questions moderators should ask at the debate.
Trump’s mission is to do the opposite: to “disqualify” Harris, as campaign strategists put it. He’ll undoubtedly do his best to cast her as an underqualified candidate who, if elected, would continue all the aspects of Biden’s presidency that voters haven’t liked.
Which Harris shows up? The prosecutor on the attack, or the optimist promising “a new way forward”? The progressive Harris who ran for president in 2019, or the increasingly moderate, center-left Harris who has softened many of her earlier positions?
Which Trump will show up? Will it be the uncaged Trump of his mass rallies, promising to deport millions of undocumented immigrants in a process he promises will be “bloody,” and charging that Harris and the Democrats are “communists and fascists”? Or will he temper his message to try to win back some of the independent and moderate voters who have drifted away from him since 2016?
—Doyle McManus
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