Desalination an expensive, lousy idea To say...
Desalination an expensive, lousy idea
To say that the idea of a desalination plant in Huntington Beach
doesn’t make sense is like saying burning $100 bills to boil some
water might not be a good idea.
Santa Barbara has a desalination plant that it doesn’t run. It
just sits idle because the citizens don’t want to pay the price for
turning seawater into drinkable water. Quite simply, it’s too
expensive a process. Most of the citizens of Santa Barbara probably
got rich because they have some sense about how they spend their
money. Catalina Island also has some pretty wealthy residents and
they consistently turn down the idea of a desalination plant. Yet
here in Huntington Beach, where developers are still trying to build
thousands of homes on the Bolsa Chica, one of their stumbling blocks
is that they need more water.
Don’t let anyone fool you. It is expensive to make seawater into
freshwater and that is why most of the world has a water shortage.
BILL HALPIN
Huntington Beach
Districts and lifetime term limits bad ideas
On page B9 of the Huntington Beach Independent dated Nov. 13,
2003, is the Notice of Special Municipal Election submitted by the
City Clerk of Huntington Beach. I suggest everyone read it to become
fully informed.
Lumped together with the possible division into districts for
council members, is item No. 3, which affects terms of office.
This proposal alone is enough for me to vote no on the submitted
measure. I do not agree with imposing additional limits to the
present two consecutive four-year term limit. If the voters wish to
reinstate a person after that person has complied with the present
limit, that should be their option. A lifetime limit as proposed is
not in the best interests of the city.
Regarding the division into districts with a reduction of the
present City Council of seven, is restricting the citizens of our
city. I much prefer electing all the members of my City Council and
having direct access to all of them. Restricting me to one person is
taking away my ability to communicate with the entire council. I
believe the City Councils of Huntington Beach have represented the
entire city and have taken an active role in all areas of the city. I
do not wish to see this changed and my rights to effectively express
my opinions as to what happens outside of my proposed district taken
away.
I strongly urge a no vote on the Proposed Special Municipal
Election measure to be held on March 2, 2004.
NORMA VANDER MOLEN
Huntington Beach
All I’m hearing from districting proponents who aren’t in league
with Scott Baugh and friends on the so-called Fair District
Initiative is accountability and low cost candidacy. Both are
illusions.
Yes, it might bring the cost down for district candidates, but it
will be the well-financed and special interest candidates that will
win in the districts.
This is an almost incontestable fact even though some
constituencies don’t realize it yet.
Accountability is a cruel hoax for those who think the City
Council will be more responsive to community members in our city.
Those in a district who disagree with the elected council member will
have zero chance to force accountability on him or her. They will
also have little chance of influencing the council members of other
districts. Where is the accountability in that?
Well-heeled outside special interests will have the same chance to
pour campaign money and influence into a district race that they do
citywide right now. Where is the change in that?
Finally, giving up three or four votes every election for one
restricted vote in a district is by no means “fair” to anyone. It
strips the voter from being able to influence the shape of the entire
City Council, which makes decisions for the whole city. Being able to
do that brings accountability closer to the average voter than all
the hollow promises and misrepresentations of the districting plans
that will only divide and destroy us.
TIM GEDDES
Huntington Beach
The initiative proposal to change the structure of our City
Council from the current seven council members elected at-large to
five districts (where each citizen has only one representative
instead of seven) is an extremely bad idea. It is much less
democratic than what we have now.
Now, each citizen votes for and is represented by seven council
members.
Every two years every voter can vote for all the City Council
positions that are on the ballot. Each citizen can contact any or all
council members since they represent all the people in the city.
In contrast, the districting proposal would allow citizens to vote
only once every four years for only one council member representing
only one district. The citizen would be out of luck if that
representative didn’t agree with him on issues.
Further, that citizen would have no one else to turn to on the
City Council. In other words, that citizen would lose his voice in
our city government. How fair is that?
A lobbyist for the AES power plant authored the districting
proposal. It is evident that such a plan would make it much easier
for powerful special interests, such as AES, to control our city
elections. Smaller voting areas mean that less money would be spent
on fancy campaign brochures.
AES imposes a hideously ugly eyesore on our city. It also spews
polluting smoke into our air. It doesn’t pay its fair share of taxes.
Now, to add insult to injury, special interests want to take away our
political voice.
Vote no on districting and keep your city in the hands of all its
citizens.
MARINKA HORACK
Huntington Beach
The people of Huntington Beach signed the petition for council
district’s thinking that they would get better representation in
getting their neighborhood problems solved, things like repaired
curbs, sidewalks, streets, trees, sewers, storm drains, and better
police and fire protection service.
People thought that by having one council person representing them
that would be accomplished for their district. Now how would that
work? Would we have five or seven budgets, one for each district? you
could run out of money real fast for a district, and then where would
you get the money?
My question is, who comes first? What district is next, and how
deep is your pocket? Do we repair a curb or a sidewalk in a district,
while someone’s sewer or toilet backs up in another district?
Does your house burn down in your district, because there was no
adequate water supplies from the reservoir in the next district? Our
city can’t and won’t work that way. Things are repaired with
available funds at the time that the need and planning is there. If
it is not broke don’t try to fix it.
If you want change, educate yourself or support a candidate from
your area during a campaign to get the people that you want to do the
job that is needed, you can get a “bad apple” in a district just as
well, and as the saying goes, people get the government they deserve.
We need a full seven-member council for this city of nearly 200,000
people with the budget problems we have.
DEAN ALBRIGHT
Huntington Beach
Council out of touch, people want districts
If you ever had any concerns that some members of the Huntington
Beach City Council were out of touch with the majority of the
citizens, the result of Councilman Sullivan’s proposal for seven City
Council districts should remove all doubts.
The 4-3 vote against that proposal deprives us of the choice to
vote for what we individually believe is the best method of
governance.
(Councilwoman Pam) Houchen’s 180 degree flip, (from voting for the
Sullivan’s seven-district proposal at the last meeting, to voting
against it at last night’s meeting), would have warmed the heart of
an Olympic diving coach.
Council members (Debbie) Cook, (Connie) Boardman, and (Jill Hardy)
were joined by Houchen in their mistaken belief, that “a majority of
our citizens don’t want districts.” This is in the face of the latest
poll that reported that 67% of the people want districts to only 27%
who favor at-large elections.
Where do these councilwomen get their information? Surely it
doesn’t come from the majority of the voters of this town. It
couldn’t come from the polls. It must be the views of their
supporters and financial backers.
I congratulate council members (Dave) Sullivan, (Cathy) Green and
(Gil) Coerper for their realization that the voters want district
representation and accountability and we will prove that in 2004.
The Fair Districts petition, (for five City Council seats, elected
by district), will still appear on the ballot in March, and when it
passes, we will then be able to elect council members who will be in
tune with our neighborhood needs, wants and desires, in November.
JOSEPH JEFFREY
Huntington Beach
Shipley volunteers should be commended
What a difference a year makes at Shipley’s Nature Center.
Congratulations and kudos are in order to all of the Friends of the
Shipley Nature Center. All of the recent accomplishments pointed out
in the Natural Perspectives article (Nov. 13) could of never happened
without the hard work and dedication of the volunteers.
Last October the gates were locked and the Center was left to the
weeds but thanks to the Friends of the Shipley Nature Center many of
the weeds are gone and the gates are once again opened and the trails
are there to be explored and the quiet in the middle of suburbia
enjoyed.
So, feel free to come back to Shipley’s to enjoy nature or better
yet volunteer to help restore it for our children and their children.
And don’t forget to remind your favorite council person to support
funding for the Shipley Nature Center.
STEVE ENGEL
Huntington Beach
All the latest on Orange County from Orange County.
Get our free TimesOC newsletter.
You may occasionally receive promotional content from the Daily Pilot.